Is PatchGuard bypass necessary in case of boot time DSE bypass?

[subvert0r]

Question description

I have tested the boot time DSE bypass without the patchguard, and I did not get any BSOD, even after waiting 40-50 minute.

My question is, is this because we are patching it before patchguard is initialized? Does this mean in case of boot time DSE bypass, there is no need for patchguard bypass?

[ValeZAA]

40 minutes is a little low, I would say it takes 2 hours to bluescreen caused by OatchGuard protection. Are you in windows 11?